Fish were holding on beds between 3-12'. Beds were butted up against large rocks, and brush. I found slowly dragging a weedless ned head paired with a Roboworm Ned Worm in Aarons Magic through the bed to work best. In fact I had one break me off, after tangling me in the branch its bed was against, and then take it about 15 minutes later, and I was able to recover the first Ned from it.